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Hmmm...I'm not sure how that would feel (the blown up picture looks like a plunger - haha!), but if you get it I'd love to see a review! I'm not a big fan of the amount of waste generated by pads and tampons so that could be a good benefit. I only bleed once every three months thanks to manipulating my cycle with the pill, so this might be something I could tolerate since it wouldn't be a frequent hassle.
Yeah, maybe I'll fire off a query-ish thing to them, too. "You gives me the free mini-plunger, and I'll writes a review."
My sister used this for several years and swore by it. Me, I just can't bring myself to use one, even though I, too, think about the amount of waste we produce with tampons, etc. I don't think my sister ever had any leakage problems. I believe some people go the safe route and use a panty liner with them, at least on the heavy days.
Can you expand on "bring myself to use?"

I think you mean the yuck-factor. In my case, even with tampons and what comes out visibly on pads and literally falls into the toilet is the same stuff. I know that's a visual men wouldn't want to have but I know women know what I'm talking about ;)
Yeah, the yuck factor. I know I should be all "go me, I'm a woman" and not think about it that way, but the fact of the matter is, it's messy, and to me would be even more so with having to insert and extract this thing. And what do you do at work or if you're out and about? Have a second one handy? How do you go about cleaning the thing if it's an open washroom instead of just one toilet in a room like at home? It's just endometrial tissue and blood, but, ummm, to me, blood means messy.
I should be all "go me, I'm a woman"
Thanks for explaining your qualms -- I didn't think about it other than figuring whatever came out was whatever I'd be looking at anyway.

One concern on my side and that's the um, handle thing? It's supposed to be outside your body and that seems, how could I say this without saying it the way I normally would? Well, like a stick somewhere that normally you wouldn't want to spend all day feeling.

The site says a typical woman loses 2-4 ounces total during menses and it should hold 1 ounce. Honestly, I'd consider dumping it in the shower and doing my rinse-y-poo there!
I have no problem with what comes out - it's natural and all that - but I guess I just don't want to be that connected to the process - lol. The handle or whatever they call it is made of the same rubber material, is it not? You probably wouldn't even feel it. And I can't help but think of all the things like using it at work, etc, because I think waaaaaaaay too much about a lot of things - lol.
We need thinkers! I was just saying after spending time with my eldest 2 nieces that #1niece is like her poor MT (sloppy, into stuff, sensitive but big-picture!) and #2niece is detail-oriented in a big way. I mean, she was noticeably different than we two busy-bodies!

It takes all kinds and thank GOODNESS for the details-people. We look before we leapers rely on you!

I have two friends with very heavy periods who use these and say they are awesome and don't leak. I can't remember what one they have, but both of them just boil it up on the stove before they start using it every month to give it a bit of an extra clean.

Most of the time I don't have enough of a period to think this is worth it to me. A bad period for me is when I get to the third tampon.

Don't be jealous. It's probably going to give me uterine cancer or some such eventually. lol.

Thanks much for sharing their experiences! I'm contacting the company and offering my services for review. :)
On a couple of message boards I visit, I have had a lot of women say they really like these. Several said it took a couple of months to get the knack of it, so a minipad would be a necessity.

I keep thinking about giving one a try. I'm chicken.
Expand on "chicken" or is the yuck-factor again?
Not so much the yuck factor. Mostly it's the "will it really fit right and not leak" factor. I tried "Instead" - the disposable things that are along the same lines, and they didn't fit right and leaked.

Really, since they are returnable (I'd sterilize it first, if it came to that), I don't have anything to lose by giving them a shot. Maybe in a month or two, when my stockpile of other stuff runs a little lower...
Thanks for the explanation! I'm a curious sort and I'm really thinking of trying it, so I'd love all the angles people can clue me into before I get into it.

Yeah, "Instead" were disposable I *think.* Didn't you have to wear ONE the whole period or something because when you took it out, it was "out?" If it's ready to come out, it should come out, right? That's one of my worries even if it's completely unfounded. :)
No, Instead is something you change as needed. It doesn't go in so far that it should have any risk of getting stuck.
Arbed raised a good point about cleaning it when you're out in public. I'm not at all squeamish about letting people know what I'm up to there (we're all women, right?), but you gotta get dressed, go out of the stall to the sink, clean the thing, go back into the stall, and get undressed again to reinstall the thing. How do you keep from getting blood everywhere (yes, I'll be the one who's klutzy enough to do that) and if you aren't wearing a panty shield how do you keep from bleeding on your underwear while you're out washing the thing up? Just seems like too much work for me.
hm, I think I may have to give that thing a whirl. I used to use a diaphragm for sex, sometimes while bleeding, and I marveled at the handiness of it-- other than the part where it kept getting stuck until our relationship ended one day by my hurling the evil stopper into the trash with glee. but this thing's got a handle (yes, flexible rubber, I'm guessing)! and no expensive landfill refuse! and no rags to wash (I'm seriously just not that committed to being green, sad to say). woo. thanks for the head-up, lady! :)
I didn't mean stuck, I mean nothing is coming "out" but I get your point!
I totally agree and that's why my first thought was always waiting until I was in the shower to change/ clean the thing up but w/o actually taking it on a test-run, who knows?
If you try it, please let me know. I'm contacting the company.
I can offer no opinion.
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You could just do the modern thing and overdose on birth control pills. Cancer city. Leave it up to a male-dominated society to make being a woman seem like something to cure. ;)
As someone who wants nothing to do with the reproduction process (except all that fun sex!), O.D.'ing on my pills *is* a cure. :-)

I did start taking the pill as a teen originally to combat the severe symptoms I was dealing with at the time. A couple of years ago my doctor and I decided I could skip three months of periods at a time. I don't want to be on the pill forever, but at this point in my life it's a freeing experience to not have the hassle of my period but three or four times a year.
I tried to post here to Maya and couldn't. Vox's house-gods must've let up cos here I am...

My maternal family had many women die from bleeding -- including one of my grandmother's sisters. The "cure" was staying knocked up; I'm not kidding. Hence: my great-grandmother had 19 live births. That's what they had to do. My grandmother had a complete hysterectomy at age 27 and that "cured" her.

I was put on pills at age 17 and stayed on them until last year. At that time, I was using the once every 4 months pills and still getting a period once every 2-3 weeks. This, is better than facing multiple pregnancies (not a psychological option due to my childhood) or death.

I hated having to be on all that "hormone" stuff, especially because it didn't work the way it was supposed to do. Reading one of the packette inserts will scare the Bejeebies out of a girl.

Bringing me to...Why stop? Well, somewhere between my advanced years (I'm 36) and switching from industrial-raised (therefore who-know-what hormone-induced) skim milk to using full-fat soy milk (approx. 3 C/ day), I had a major physical change. After 3 weeks, I was surprised at the "no bleed-throughs" that I took myself off the pill and continued on a REGULAR cycle. Never in my life have I experienced that. I'm told it's either the phyto-estrogens in the soy milk -or- my current natural hormone level (getting ready to begin menopause).

Long comment, eh? I wanted to get that in there with the discussion about hormones :)


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Hey gals -

Yes I wouldn't ever knock the pill if it was to correct a medical problem - I totally understand that. It just makes my skin crawl when I hear the pill being advertised to teenagers as a way to avoid the "inconvenience" of menstruating. Just like the ads touting the new cervical cancer vaccine.

The vaccine may be great. But advertising it?? Shouldn't that be between the girl and her pediatrician? It's just creepy what these drug companies are trying to sell!

When I took the pill I got vertigo, loud ringing in my ears and a headache that lasted two months. The pharmacist and ***former*** ObGyn told me my symptoms couldn't possibly be from the pill and switched me to a different kind. Months more of the same symptoms, until guess what, I stopped taking them and two days later my symptoms were gone.

That's why I'm suspicious of this drug. But hey, I'm not a doctor, I just play one on TV. ;)

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You could not be more right (righter!) about rx commercials. What a b.s. thing! Like... did you know that zyrtec (sp?) is now available OTC (I don't take it but know 2 people who do) and it's MORE expensive that way than it was when an rx?

These pharmcos are incredible -- and making money hand-over-fist. I will regurgitate if anyone whines, "but that money goes into R&D."

I used to take Claritin, but now it's too expensive over the counter and so I just suffer with my normal allergies. It's not the end of the world, I just can't breathe through my nose anymore!
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MT, OTC? That's just crazy. By the way when I was still on Restoril do you know I paid $36 per pill? Thank goodness I discovered magnesium!!

Valerae, you probably already know this trick, but I've been taking local honey for years now and as long as I'm consistent, not so much as a sneeze all year. I have to start in February but if you start now within a few months things do get better.

For acute attacks, stinging nettle (freeze dried capsules) work wonders for me.

Drug adverts should be illegal. I don't remember having outrageous prescription costs before they started advertising. Big pharma says they don't spend as much on marketing as they do on R&D but I saw a recent study that found otherwise (and now I can't find it!).

Advertising to the kids is even worse. Young girls shouldn't be manipulating their stuff anyway, holy crow, they're not even done growing yet!! I'm an adult woman who's been married for nearly 8 years and I have no plans for kids. My periods have always been rough so it was a decision that my doc and I made to cut back. No corporations were consulted in my decision.

My sister can't take the pill either, even I had a problem until I found the right one. It's crazy what some of those hormones will do to you. I was a freaking monster on one kind of pill. My doc at the time finally switched me to something else that was even worse. I was fed up with her so I changed docs and my new one took me off of it right away - apparently my replacement pill was even stronger than the one I was having trouble with! I've been on low-dose estrogen ever since. It's not a permanent solution, but it does the trick for now.
I'm going to walk around all day and just shake my head and repeat: 19!

What a shame. Women have come a long way in the last couple of generations but we still have a ways to go. I can't imagine pregnancy being a good solution to anything. Ugh, poor great-gramma.
Val,
I'm glad you found something that works for you. If my symptoms return, I'll have to resort to taking the pill again -- it scares me, though. Esp. w/ menopausal women and their dealios with hrts.
This is my first year on local honey. I discovered a local beekeeper back in January and have eaten his honey (well, his bees' honey!) nearly every day. I can handle cures like that!! My bigger problem is dust, but cutting back on outdoor allergies does help a lot overall.

Mad-T, sorry for the comment overload, just wanted responses to specific comments!! :-D

Ech, it's all girl-issued and trad versus something else-related. Get your comment on, I'm cool.

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